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What would ruin Avatar 2 for you

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Woodsprite said:
I still need to watch it again. Been years. I'm a bit disheartened at myself.
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I recently watched Avatar: CE on my birthday, but I actually don't watch it very frequently either. What I often do from the late spring to the mid-fall is to go out walking on a trail listening to the Avatar soundtrack as well as the soundtrack of Pandora: The World of Avatar and possibly Toruk: The First Flight (although usually just the first two).
 
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Ja'k Dawsiin said:
um not seeing it, because i died from coronavirus. ugh. i'm depressed now. :(
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Thankfully, while CO-VID19 is deadlier than the flu and needs to be slowed from spreading, the majority of people that get it will have mild symptoms, so anyone persons odds from dieing from it is still low, but I know the feeling, a couple of weeks ago the Avatar sequels were 6 inches from being cancelled for me by a vehicle that nearly ran me over in a crosswalk. I need Avatar sequels, world please let me live to see them.
 
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Irayo ma Empty Glass, yea it was a close shave, I remember the good ol' days when Avatar 2 was coming out in 2012. Oh well, got to stay positive :)
 
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another delay would just about do it............oh wait. i can't stand it. :(


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Well we all know JC has been pushing the envelope and I know that what is being created is "going" to be next level. The only thing is, when you push the envelope, you always are taking a bit of a gamble, and the rise of the COVID-19 Pandemic is a factor that there was no way to plan for in advance, I still have faith that things will work out, but I am concerned a bit that this situation may upend that gamble.
 
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the house of mouse is supposed to release a final reschedule shuffle schedule on August 30th, during the DC Fandome week, and a very reliable twitter source says that the delays are actually going to be quite a bit worse, due to some effects houses filing bankruptcy, others delayed indefinitely, and retirements/passings of some key senior people in art graphics and cgi/mocap tech. yikes.
 
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I watched the presentation of the Mercedes AVTR which had JC making an appearance on stage to discuss his inspirations and the Avatar films. He mentioned that we would see different sides of both the natives and corporation, both good and bad.

His statements aroused my curiosity, as I always felt the plot of the first film to be very cut and dry, despite the amount of detail, deleted scenes and extra lore that never saw the final cut.

So what would ruin Avatar 2 for me personally, is if the story is as 'classic' as the first one was. but I strongly sense that JC has more going on in the sequels.
 
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Interesting thread.
For me, the thing that would "ruin" Avatar 2 (and probably the other sequels) would be the quality of the story.

I saw two strains of thought about the direction the story could go while reading some of the fanfics posted on FFN in 2010.

One was basically, "Jake and Neytiri kick the humans off Pandora and live happily ever after" and the other one was "The RDA Strikes Back" and the issue with both ends of that spectrum is that they are unrealistic.

Realistically, the humans will still be around and they will come back in some form or another. So the idea of Jake and Neytiri living "happily ever after" is unrealistic.

The problem with "The RDA Strikes Back" is that the Na'vi have Eywa on their side. So the humans can't just "invade" Pandora in great numbers, mostly due to logistical reasons but also because Eywa will fight back.

It looks like JC is veering toward the "RDA Strikes Back" end of the spectrum. I have not seen the trailer nor do I have any intention to see the trailer. My main concern is that the story will focus on essentially the same narrative points from the first movie.

It will basically be a retelling of the same story from the first movie: RDA Bad, Na'vi fight back, RDA fights back in greater numbers, etc.

I do want to see more of Pandora, of course. But I also want an engrossing, engaging story to hang my heart on through the movie.

I think JC can do this, and I am looking forward to the movie next month.

We shall see how it turns out.
 
Blazil

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I think no single aspect of the movie could ruin it for me. After thirteen years I am not picky about anything. And its Cameron were are talking about. Did we forget what he has put on the big screen the last 35 years?

I am sure there will be aspects of the sequel that I will not like, but that's how it always is with anything for anybody, I think. No one should let a small aspect ruin a big thing for themselves.

SnowRider said:
I saw two strains of thought about the direction the story could go while reading some of the fanfics posted on FFN in 2010.

One was basically, "Jake and Neytiri kick the humans off Pandora and live happily ever after" and the other one was "The RDA Strikes Back" and the issue with both ends of that spectrum is that they are unrealistic.

Realistically, the humans will still be around and they will come back in some form or another. So the idea of Jake and Neytiri living "happily ever after" is unrealistic.

The problem with "The RDA Strikes Back" is that the Na'vi have Eywa on their side. So the humans can't just "invade" Pandora in great numbers, mostly due to logistical reasons but also because Eywa will fight back.
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Now that's a bit generalizing, but I think I get your point, having written an "The RDA Strikes Back" story myself. I think that the humans returning is the most logical way forward as it would be unrealistic to think that after achieving interstellar travel and having a "dying world" that they would just keel over and die after one bad day on Pandora resulted in their entire armed force there being crushed. "Try harder" would be the motto.

It was said in the first movie that Eywa doesn't necessarily choose the side of the Na'vi, rather that she protects the balance of life. So, depending on how far that scale is tipped in either direction, Eywa might do nothing initially when the humans return and even tolerate them to a limited extent.
 
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