Ways To Cope With The Depression Of The Dream Of Pandora Being Intangible.

[allroock123]

The forum community's offer a common roots shared place of expression so very uncommon in mainstream community today I have huge respect for the community's the film built and what Pandora's living example symbology stands for ,, "But" there are places of expression in the native community circles if one takes the time to "listen" and to build friendships and trust and to walk among "The People" that have offered this expression for hundreds of generations one must use care to understand feelings upon cultural appropriation as this is a sensitive subject

 

[discounthobo159]

Even though we have not confirmed life like us anywhere else in the universe it most certainly is exists. I got over my AVATAR depression pretty quickly after realizing the immensity of the universe. Plausible theories exist that suggest our universe is one of many. This not only increases the chances of life elsewhere, but it also increases the chances of Pandora like worlds with Na'vi like creatures. There are some theories based in the same thought that suggest our fictional characters might actually be real in some other universe. If universes are as abundant as atoms then there's an incalculable probability that Pandora and all the fictional inhabitants actually exist.

^ Probably the best damn answer in this thread (though I'm not suffering any sort of "Pandaron-Existential" depression)

one must use care to understand feelings upon cultural appropriation as this is a sensitive subject

Regarding the context of this thread........... errrr care to elaborate?

 

[Neverman]

To all who suffer from Pandora-Blues:
If Eywa is real why should her power be limited to one moon? Isn't the power of a god/goddess (although I'm not sure whether this term describes her well) universal and eternal? Who says you can't live by the laws and principles of Eywa here on earth? Since it's all about appreciation and gratefulness, you might be closest to Eywa (and by that Pandora) if you are grateful and appreciate the people of your surroundings. I'm sure Eywa doesn't want us to be unhappy and blind for our environment, but aware of who we are and what we do. Eywa is within us.

 

[Neytiri1991]

Your own pandora

wouldn't it be awesome if we would have our own hall where we can "recreate" our own Pandora? Just for us? I am dreaming about it right now. Wouldn't actually be a bad idea

 

[kyojin]

It's been 8 years since I saw Avatar for the first time and got depressed, so this depression is long gone. But back then, I haven't done much to even try to cope with it.
Right now, I kind of even miss that time. I wish I could forget I've seen Avatar and travel back in time to watch it once gain for the "first" time in cinema xD

 

[Neverman]

Funny: I didn't even like the film so much when I first saw it. I thought it was just to 'plain'. And I'm always overwhelmed by images, especially in IMAX, so I couldn't even really enjoy its visuals und back then I didn't quite grasp, how groundbreaking all the new technology and motion capture stuff was. Though I remember I almost cried during Graces last scene. That usually doesn't happen with a blockbuster, but I almost immediately forgot the film for nearly 8 years. Then, a bit more grown-up, I discovered the movies of James Cameron again and saw them on a whole different level, including Avatar. Thats basically why I'm here.
But I never suffered from post-Avatar-depression, thanks to god. Now the movie hits all my emotional nerves whenever I watch it and this can be quite exhausting.^^

 

[mrbluejean]

The real sadness

I believe that the "depression" feeling myself and some fans are getting is directly related to their love scene under the Tree of Souls. The pair's relationship build-up of Jake being taught by Neytiri to hunt, capturing his own banshee, then being initiated into the clan as one of the people is finalized by the bond between their queues.

The unmatched mental, emotional, and "Physical" connection is ultimately achieved here that we as viewers yearn for on this entirely new level.

 

[ahoragi]

I believe that the "depression" feeling myself and some fans are getting is directly related to their love scene under the Tree of Souls. The pair's relationship build-up of Jake being taught by Neytiri to hunt, capturing his own banshee, then being initiated into the clan as one of the people is finalized by the bond between their queues.

The unmatched mental, emotional, and "Physical" connection is ultimately achieved here that we as viewers yearn for on this entirely new level.

For me it was the world they live in that made me depressed because I was just "another human" on this earth and not in harmony with nature. The movie changed the direction of my life and made me more connected to the natural world around me. I never thought growing up that I would be an avid gardener and Avatar is what brought that onto me. To see a plant grow from a seed into a fruit producing specimen and feed me is quite amazing. This same plant gets full respect when it dies: it gets buried in the garden to give back and become one of the "plants".

Funny fact is I have not intentionally killed a bug since I saw this movie. I let them all out the windows to where they belong. I feel every living organism has a role and I should not disrupt it.

I just watched Avatar this week on a brand new Qled 4k tv. Holy damn does it look good!

 

[Fake Sully]

I feel like my Problem after watching the movie is:
a) Feeling disconnected from nature (as in this post)
b) Having no feeling of COMMUNITY like the Na‘vi have. Modern society is so DISTANCED.

 

[Sopyu ftu äo]

Community is so hard for me, as I am deeply misanthropic and aside from my partner, really don't like being around people. But at the same time, a society without banal, shallow consumer-capitalist BS, and with a strong and clear ideal of collective responsibility and collective welfare for the society itself and also for all life would be something I could find really sympathy for and meaningfully engage with.

 

[Fake Sully]

Community is so hard for me, as I am deeply misanthropic and aside from my partner, really don't like being around people. But at the same time, a society without banal, shallow consumer-capitalist BS, and with a strong and clear ideal of collective responsibility and collective welfare for the society itself and also for all life would be something I could find really sympathy for and meaningfully engage with.

Yup. I feel like I am actually not as introverted as I told myself for a long time. But finding the RIGHT community in this society seems like a real problem.

 

[Sopyu ftu äo]

Oel ngati kameie, ma'eylan.

 

[tulkunbrother]

New movie, same existencial crisis. Honestly I don't even know how to express myself in words. I watched the new movie last saturday and it was just so imersive, like I could feel the warm water of the oceans while watching. When the movie ended, that was it, back to the normal stupid routines of work and sleep...
Of all movies I have ever watched, none of them makes me want to live in the movie's universe so bad as Avatar does.
This movie can really change our perspectives of the world around us, our place within nature, society and the need of a better way of living.

 

[tulkunbrother]

This is where we differ. For me, it is EVERY kind. 'spiritual' is not a good description, but physically, certainly, as well as just a deep feeling that this IS my home, I've never truly belonged here and I always kind of knew it, even if I never admitted it. Even before Avatar I used to think about my home, where it is, what it would be like, but I could never find it. After Avatar for the first time, it took me a while to work out what it all means, but the answer was:
I have found my home.

I see you, friend. I did not think about this before I read your post, but the more I do, more I find myself feeling the same way you do. Avatar 1 and 2 touched me deeply, and I was thinking and thinking without knowing exactly why. I found this forum and posted yesterday about some of my feelings, but they were not all.
If you read my post, you will see that I was not able to really describe what I was feeling, and now I believe I am begining to understand it. Pandora is our home, we do not fit here on Earth, at least I have always felt this way, literally my entire life. No other movie, book, game or whatever made me felt the way Avatar did.

(And yes, I am reading every post here, it is helping me a lot )

 

[tulkunbrother]

This is perhaps the biggest misconception running around these forums - that there is body else. Nobody cares, nobody sees, nobody wants a meaningful life. That is not true. If this forum has proven anything, it is how individuals from every corner of the earth with different backgrounds can all dream the same dream. Not to mention this forum is essentially a branch-off of a movie forum, there are a lot of other people out there.



Sometimes I walk into the woods and feel the same way. All the forests around my home are less than 50 years old and some have large traces of human activity. I appreciate the beauty, but it lacks the authentic feel. However, recently I've found this lack of authenticity as source of happiness. There used to be virtually no trees in my area, but now there are large forests. I'm living in a time where humanity is starting to turn around. It's make it or break it time. We either destroy our planet or we nurture it back to it's original health. Someday my great grandchildren are going to look back at this historic moment and wish they could have been part of the revolution. I am very lucky to have this opportunity.

Absolutely fantastic words. We cannot go to Pandora itself, and that makes me really sad, but I can see that we still have the oportunity to do something meaningful here, in this historical moment of saving an entire planet.
In some way, we are the generation before Pandora's invasion of humanity, in the second movie they are there to colonize because Earth is dying, and here, in "real life" we can prevent this from happening.

 

[Sopyu ftu äo]

I see you, friend. I did not think about this before I read your post, but the more I do, more I find myself feeling the same way you do. Avatar 1 and 2 touched me deeply, and I was thinking and thinking without knowing exactly why. I found this forum and posted yesterday about some of my feelings, but they were not all.
If you read my post, you will see that I was not able to really describe what I was feeling, and now I believe I am begining to understand it. Pandora is our home, we do not fit here on Earth, at least I have always felt this way, literally my entire life. No other movie, book, game or whatever made me felt the way Avatar did.

(And yes, I am reading every post here, it is helping me a lot )

Or maybe, my feeling, is that we fit perfectly here with Gaia... but not with our western, settler-colonist consumer capitalist hellscape... But that... that we can change

 

[Sopyu ftu äo]

Home

 

[tulkunbrother]

But I know there is something missing, and HNM will keep saying that and I know what he means - by all means we have here, we cannot be on Pandora, we cannot be blue beeings and sit on top of floating mountains and look at a sky with a red planet filling the horizon (ever since I had that image in my head some years ago I could not let go and Avatar made it just stronger).

Please, friend, explain to me what did you mean by "I had that image in my head some years ago"?

 

[tulkunbrother]

Or maybe, my feeling, is that we fit perfectly here with Gaia... but not with our western, settler-colonist consumer capitalist hellscape... But that... that we can change

I agree, I think, after all, we all have to accept we cannot be on Pandora, but we can change at least some aspects of the way we live here on Earth!

 

[Fake Sully]

I agree, I think, after all, we all have to accept we cannot be on Pandora, but we can change at least some aspects of the way we live here on Earth!

Soooo, personally I feel much better the last few days, weirdly. I am far more busy, I am doing an internship I don't really like 100% (but it's alright I guess?) and I have little free time. But, you know, it makes me appreciate that time more.

After all the movie helped me form a dream, a vision, of how the world could be. I cannot achieve this dream, sadly, but I am trying to find a personal solution or dream abstracted from that.
Maybe that might help you, too. Find what bothers you so much about society/humans after watching the movie and either try to find a solution for it/separate from it or else make peace with it. You should not be angry about things you cannot change all the time. I'm not saying you shouldn't point them out, but at some point you gotta live with it or change it.

Also, don't forget that Avatar is "just" a movie, after all. Don't confuse it with reality, not all humans are bad...