The Browser War.

[iron_jones]

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[Zrina Ni'awve]

I use Chrome on my netbook/notebook/PC (simply - it's fast and that's all I need) and I'm used to use it and I needn't to instal anything else
On my mobile I've got Safari. I think you know why. But I'm going there only at bus or on a holiday so, again, I needn't to have anything else.

 

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

i use Chrome and Firefox, mostly. if i were to pick a winner of the browser war, it would definitely be Firefox, the most user-friendly and least problematic of the lot.

ie needs to be relegated to the scrapheap of computer history

 

[Moco Loco]

chrome, opera for what doesn't happen on chrome

 

[SaphirJD]

Otter-Browser and Pale Moon

 

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

i automatically delete IE off my devices, yuck don't want that spyware. Firefox is still my go-to browser, but i have definitely warmed up to Chrome too.

 

[Sann]

I found this old thread again and I have to ask.

Is the Opera browser any good these days? I have stopped using it many years ago and I have heard highly mixed reviews on the way it developed; from 'it's better than ever before' all the way to 'it's CCP spyware'

 

[Eltu]

Well, it depends a bit on how you look at web browsers and what you value.

Personally, I'm unwilling to contribute to the Chromium monoculture as I feel it's detrimental to the health and collaboration of the web overall. As a result, if that is something you value, realistically the only browser that makes sense to use is Firefox (which is also what I use these days) and to a lesser degree Safari. Edge, Opera, Vivaldi, Brave and more all are based on Chromium, so from that particular point of view they are all essentially Chrome - which you may or may not take issue with depending on your views.

From a purely functional standpoint, Opera is serviceable these days - though if you are looking for something more like the older days of Opera, Vivaldi is a better bet since it is developed by the old Opera devs and very similar in philosophy. Though again, both are Chromium-based so if that is a concern Firefox is very much the way to go.

In general I can also recommend Firefox from a privacy standpoint, in particular now that Chromium-based browsers are set to make some pretty sweeping changes that will have severe privacy impacts.

(on a side note, I would disregard my earlier comments in this thread - they were made a very long time ago when my takes were not nearly as nuanced or well reasoned )

 

[Sann]

Interesting. I switched to Firefox before the My Opera shutdown fiasco, so it makes sense that I haven't tested Vivaldi - perhaps I should. Firefox remains my primary browser and it is indeed the wisest choice at the moment, but I am not adverse to experimentation in controlled environments. Thank you for the swift and prompt reply.

 

[Blazil]

I was a long time Chrome user but several years ago I switched over to Firefox. I can't recall exactly why, maybe I was simply tired of Google's BS. I never liked Edge and only use it at work as most company web applications work best with it. The company even recommended using IE until several years ago...luckily I never have to use it again nowadays.

 

[Sopyu ftu äo]

Well, it depends a bit on how you look at web browsers and what you value.

Personally, I'm unwilling to contribute to the Chromium monoculture as I feel it's detrimental to the health and collaboration of the web overall. As a result, if that is something you value, realistically the only browser that makes sense to use is Firefox (which is also what I use these days) and to a lesser degree Safari. Edge, Opera, Vivaldi, Brave and more all are based on Chromium, so from that particular point of view they are all essentially Chrome - which you may or may not take issue with depending on your views.

From a purely functional standpoint, Opera is serviceable these days - though if you are looking for something more like the older days of Opera, Vivaldi is a better bet since it is developed by the old Opera devs and very similar in philosophy. Though again, both are Chromium-based so if that is a concern Firefox is very much the way to go.

In general I can also recommend Firefox from a privacy standpoint, in particular now that Chromium-based browsers are set to make some pretty sweeping changes that will have severe privacy impacts.

(on a side note, I would disregard my earlier comments in this thread - they were made a very long time ago when my takes were not nearly as nuanced or well reasoned )

I agree. I was a huge fan of Opera back in the days when it used the Presto engine, before the Chromium era. I really liked the feature set. I moved to Chrome later and was a one point a big advocate from ChromeOS in my workplace. However their vendor lock-in and the crazy amount of data harvesting going on became a sore point for me, and I've moved to Firefox. I don't have a huge amount of tech in my personal life as I never went down the "smart" route, except for the mandatory phone, but did de-googlify most of it.

I agree for now Firefox is pretty much the only option out there, as I am really creeped out by the idea of there just being *one* HTML rendering engine in existence - in the modern world that's way too much power for any single company to posses... and the recent move to by Google with the whole "privacy sandbox" debacle really only serves to emphasize just how much of a problem that is.

Overall, I'm still tinkering but found a reasonably decent setup that's a compromise between usability and not selling my soul (and data). using Firefox browser, Thunderbird email, OnlyOffice for documents, IceDrive backup storage, Windows OS (telemetry mostly locked off with O&O ShutUp10), and I've got a standalone Garmin unit for my car and handheld for bushwalks.

 

[Eltu]

This is of some relevance here - https://contrachrome.com/

 

[Sopyu ftu äo]

Yeah.... going to share that. it's a *really* good intro to how creepy it's gotten.

 

[Blazil]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_be_evil

 

[Andronico]

I use Firefox and works really well, I think is the best for privacy, I don't like Chromium. Browsers like Brave that claims that they will protect your privacy are liars. I don't know if Firefox is the best for privacy, but it seem the best of the mainstream ones.

 

[Empty Glass]

Firefox all the way

 

[ahoragi]

Duck Duck Go for me.