The Avatar Universe Meets D&D

[SnowRider]

So where do the various characters in the Avatar Universe fall on the Dungeons and Dragons Alignment Chart? I don't know if we've ever discussed this here, Where do Jake, Neytiri, Quaritch, Grace, Norm, Neteyam, Lo'ak, etc. fall on that chart? Lawful Good, Neutral Evil, Chaotic Good, etc.

The Chart That Explains Everyone

 

[Sopyu ftu äo]

Tricky.... very tricky. But, here's my take



I didn't do this conciously, but looking at the result I noticed I bunched all the various people from the same groups somewhere along the same axis.

Na'vi and humans loyal to them dominate the good axis.
Science and academic types dominate the neutral axis.
Corporate and military types dominate the evil axis.

 

[Eltu]

Hah, fun thread!

Tricky.... very tricky. But, here's my take

I sort of feel like Selfridge, Ardmore and Quaritch would all fall under Lawful Evil. Maybe Quaritch slightly less so, but even then he falls back on the whole "just following orders" sort of mentality. Not sure Avatar really have any true chaotic evil characters, but that's an interesting thing to think about!

Max deserves a 'neutral good' spot! The two top rows do feel spot-on to me though

 

[Sopyu ftu äo]

Hah, fun thread!

I sort of feel like Selfridge, Ardmore and Quaritch would all fall under Lawful Evil. Maybe Quaritch slightly less so, but even then he falls back on the whole "just following orders" sort of mentality. Not sure Avatar really have any true chaotic evil characters, but that's an interesting thing to think about!

Max deserves a 'neutral good' spot! The two top rows do feel spot-on to me though

The bottom row was definitely the hardest, as most of the dubious characters are under a strict military-industrial hierarchy that kind of forces them into following orders, so their own motivations and natures do get blunted a bit, but I think Quaritch definitely has a chaotic bent. By the time Neytiri kills him at the shack, it's pretty clear he's on his own personal vendetta, and having resources and corporate blessing to wage his genocide is just the icing on the cake - he'd happily do it for free.

Ardmore was difficult - but I just have the feeling that she'd be willing to bend the rules a little bit to help achieve a "lawful" objective. Her little jibe at Quaritch that she was going to test her theory "the hard way" def gives me hints of it. Selfridge is definitely the easiest. He's built his career out of being a corporate stooge, and he's made that mantra his entire existence (Even the most devoted corproate lackey would think twice about having themselves yeeted off into deep space for the better part of two decades just to get RDA brownie points - but Selfridge is totally up for it. That's some internalised corporate BS, right there!)

 

[Eltu]

By the time Neytiri kills him at the shack, it's pretty clear he's on his own personal vendetta, and having resources and corporate blessing to wage his genocide is just the icing on the cake - he'd happily do it for free.

Yeah, it's a good point and that last scene is something that came to mind as I was wrestling with what felt like the best place to put him. It still feels like he might fit better maybe towards neutral evil but it's a tricky one.

Interestingly, the more I think about Selfridge the more I almost want to nudge him a tiny bit towards lawful neutral. Not so much that it'd define him entirely, but in a way he's more bent towards cold pragmatism than evil per se. Eh, I guess at the end of the day though he still feels like a near-perfect lawful evil

 

[Sopyu ftu äo]

Yep, Selfridge really is... As long as it's got corporate sign off he's quite happy to wipe out a culture and their home.... I mean, just look at all that cheddar! It's a really interesting point about his pragmatism - I think I'd define it as saying his tactics are always pragmatic, even though his goal is absolutely evil. he's happy to negotiate with the Na'vi if it'll allow him to more easily displace them and rape and pillage the land for his mineral... but if not, then just exterminating them works just fine, even if it does mean more work.